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I love it!

Double it.

Well I disagree just the opposite is true we are more relevant then ever. We and our State leaders even Ted Kennedy before his passing were huge supporters of Obama. Our continued support and the victory by the President and the victory of many of the new Congressman and women and new US senators is clearly showing that Massachusetts leadership is on the right track. What approaches irrelevance is that Woburn a still small town/ City want to buck the tide for the sake of saying it did and that leaves us behind the leadership. Obama won here and I am elated but Warren did not.
Independence is a good thing lets face it that sense of following your own path is what brought our immigrant ancestors and for some Mothers and Fathers to this country but to not face the fact that the fabric of America is changing once again and to fail embrace that change is foolish and dooms us to irrelevance. Thank fully as you look at the results there is proof Woburn is changing and will remain relevant along with Massachusetts. What is truly irrelevant are those in town unwilling to accept and contribute to that change.

I don't agree Mr. Quinn. How is Mass relevant when we consistently vote democrat regardless of the fact that this President did nothing to deserve re-election here. We are not Ohio and jobs are not plentiful.

DiRic0? I don't expect him back. Job is done, bots disabled.

I heard the Reverend and him were headed to the Cayman Islands, at least that was their plan. My way though is to give the guy credit, because he was passionate about what he believed, I just never could agree with with his spin, but he worked hard for Romney, but it just was not enough.

I thought they were all moving out of the country! LOL!

I wish that were not true, but it's gonna be for some of them for sure.

He is the reason for the gridlock!! 4 more years of nothing to benefit the working people. 4 more years for the lazy only.

Will I be better off in 4 years? I'll be better off as soon as I quit my job!!! Free Healthcare, Food Stamps, Monthly Welfare checks, Rent Assistance, Fuel Assistance, Free Cell Phone, Free Internet, etc.
I've learned my lesson tonight. To survive & thrive in the USA, you no longer need to work hard to get ahead. That's the old fashioned, dumb way. I don't need to send my kids to school, education will be useless. I don't have to be productive, I don't need any positive attributes any more, BIG Govt will take care of me. Great part about this way of life, I don't have to pay taxes any more. Come on people, do as I do, get those ENTITLEMENTS govt will hand out, FREE OF CHARGE. If we all do as the President desires the country will collapse real quick. I forgot, HE will MANDATE every person perform a job that HE picks for us. Smile, be happy while you can. You're giddiness will soon end.

Just called my boss to let him know I won't be in to work today.....or ever!!! I quit my job so I can live better, at the expense of those who still work. Pretty soon, us unemployed will be the MAJORITY. I want to see just hopw long funding for social programs will last, once the MAJORITY don't work any more. Where is the revenue going to come from? Off to have another cup of coffee. I can hardly wait to start receiving all those "freebies" I'll be ENTITLED to. Thank you my Socialist President.

It always amazes me how some people cleave to the very ones who are responsible for enslaving them. The "fiscal conservatives" spew the ideology that has kept them immobilized and unable to investigate information for themselves. They throw terms like"big government" around, but do they actually know what they mean? Perhaps it's time to simply stop the rhetoric and get educated. Find out for yourself how the government works.

But hey, I want to thank you so much for commenting, Jim...thanks so much...really, thank you...all of our deepest thanks....thanks for adding to the discussion....all our thanks.

Thanks again!

Kudos to Jim for his unctuous tomes, which probably resulted in zero conversions. Not often do we see such disastrous predictions (save maybe Dick Morris), and tedious repetition of talking points sans any substantive discussion of issues of concern to many voters of all political stripes. It was meandering and sometimes condescending and cute spinning like that which contributed to the enormous GOP losses, not only in Massachusetts, but across the country. The GOP will have to make many changes if it is to survive and thrive. I'd suggest they begin with selecting spokespeople who can be more than 'cool' and speak compassionately and analytically to the enormous problems that face us. Maybe some of the grace shown in the Romney concession. Not the hate that suggests union, Chicago or other conspiracies.

I though Obama won?

You use the term loosly I imagine "best man" and "won" in the same sentance

No ,what you and all the dems just did is kill our kids future. thanks for crushing any hope for the future of this Country.

I suggest you stop breeding, then.

Moderate Republicans need to kick the Tea Party to the curb, or just leave the party and start a new one. Those who know any American History know that in the early days of the republic, parties were extremely fluid - the Federalists, Jeffersonian Dems, Whigs, etc. Then in 1860 this largely stopped (Gene Debs and TR notwithstanding) and we basically have had Republicans vs Democrats for 150 years (not that the ideologies of the parties remained the same, just the 2 party names.)

A pundit yesterday was complaining about Scott Brown and said he's a moderate bipartisan R, why didn't the people of Mass. vote for him? Well, maybe because SB can be as moderate as he likes, but he's totally ineffective unless there's 10 more R's like him. And there are not. So better to give the Dems a majority in the Senate.

Mitch has taken residence in Tora-Bora (the house in Abbottabad was no longer suitable), from where he will undertake the destruction of the 2nd Obama Presidency, and in the process that of the United States.

Quasimodo,
Mitt does not need to destroy the United States - - Obama and his cronies will take care of that.
Where do I go for my free hand outs when the money runs out?

The substance is another recession, be happy for a minute and then back to misery, Remember he can't blame Bush for the next disaster

a reflection of what America truly is today.....yeah, one screwed up, divided country. Most likely with no chance to heal or unite. This can be said no matter who won the election. The President is small part of the problem. The real issue is Congress, 535 who have dug their heels in on "Ideology", unwilling to work with each other for the betterment of the country. There is NOTHING to celebrate today because of this. The President, too, has caused this division, to a point. We pay the price for this. It's too bad the people can't see through all the smoke these morons throw at us. We get what we deserve!!

It has nothing to do with skin color. Something I am a little tired of hearing of. It's more about a country that is truly divided on the issues. This country needs a new party, a third party, that is focused on people who are more independent in spirit. Liberal on some issues, a bit more conservative on others. That is where I stand and where I think millions of others do as well. Our country can't survive being only liberal on every issue or being completely conservative on every issue. Unfortunately it will take years, and a whole lot of money to make that happen.

Yes, a reflection of what America truly is today. Look at the coalition that re-elected the president. It was not a coalition driven by concerns about the long term sustainability of our country's financial picture, it was not a coalition worried about the unsustainable level of Federal debt they will leave this country's children, it was not a coalition that cared about the ever increasing power of the Federal government over the Individual and the States, it was a coaltion of selfish interest in each segment of the coalition's particular issue that re-elected the President. Issues about ratifying the Federal government's failure to manage immigration, Issues about class envy, issues about a non-existent war on women hyping the impluasible reversal of Roe v. Wade, issues about public sector employment and public sector pensions, these are the issues that re-elected the President. In the mean time, a significant portion of the Federal public debt is held by China, a significant portion of the total Federal debt is held by the social security trust funds, the former yeilding significant influence on international policy by virtue of their economic leverage, the latter imposing a huge tax burden on our future and our children's future to repay the borrowings from the Social Security Trust fund so that social security beneifts can continue to be paid. This is the reflection of what America truly is today.

Yah we are all happy that the people who got Obama elected are Blacks,Latinos,Single Moms,and kids ....Nothing against those four groups,but i don't think all of them voted the issues or even the facts. They voted to be cool or because someone like you told them to. Big Shame on you

@J Mac: Big Shame on yourself for your incorrect opinion of the type of people that voted for Obama and the reason you THINK they voted for him. Most Obama supporters actually do care very much about the future of the country and the economic situation, however unlike yourself, we believe Obama is the better person to lead this country in the right direction out of this mess.

Where do you live, Lynn? Did you realize that you are part of this "American public"?

If it had been closer, do you think the Supreme Court would have allowed it to go to the Electoral College or would they have rushed in as they did in 2000. Imagine if they had not, and Shrub had not become Pres. No Iranian and Afghanistan wars, no Bush deficit...sigh. Let's hope Mr O can get a few more good people on the SC.

To Deb: Do you think that 9/11 would not have happened if Gore had won in 2000? The extremists had been planning the attack for years. We would have been at war anyway. Duration would have been the only thing different, maybe shorter, maybe longer. Hind sight is great. AND the Supreme Court did not rush in, they were asked to review and make a decision. Which, I believe is their job. Republicans today are sore losers, If the shoe was on the other foot, Democrats would be the sore losers. Two side to every story. All we can hope for is a big cut in federal spending and maybe not so big of a tax hike. I do not see the job market improving at any great rate over the next two-three years, but I do see more people on welfare (which we cannot afford), more homeless, and the elderly not being able to make ends meet. What to choose? Housing and food or medicare which will not cover all their needs. We are not a Democracy. We are a Republic. Majority does not rule. We need to start thinking about Americans and their needs. Democrats have always fed the less fortunate with fear, by promising anything and everything. Republicans have always been for the business sector, which actually runs this country by providing jobs. IF you really want to change things and have a balanced budget , elect a housewife as President. She does not need to belong to either party as HOUSEWIFE is a party unto its self.

We'll be over to watch the dismantling of that brown sign...we'll be gracious about it -- to a point.

The only deep s**t I see here is you talking about mayas and what not.
But I guess it takes time to go through the grievance process, so take your time with and hope you make yourself less of a bigot.
Obama won and your guy lost. Grow up.

Good call, My wife and I are moving to a red state as soon as possible,so before we die we can actually see a TAX DECREASE

@J Mac: There's a bus leaving for Utah in the morning, hope you don't miss it!

Does that mean you won't have time to post nonsense on the internet? Cool!

Glad you volunteered , Bill, somebody has to do the work.

Bill: The more you work, the more they'll take from you. Try to find jobs that pay "under the table" so you can keep your hard earned money from the lazy B@#$%&*@s.

That's ok Bill, I am an Obama supporter, have a full-time job that pays well, and I will keep working for both of us and the rest of the citizenry. No slacking and sense of entitlement from me, I can assure you.

How dramatic! The American dream is not dead. I am a Mother of 6 and Grammies to 9 wonderful children. I have worked hard all my life and never asked the Government foe anything. I voted for Barack Obama! If the Republican Congress would stop stonewalling everything maybe some progress could be made but they insist their way or the highway! Wake up Bill and put the blame where it lays...The Republicans in Congress who refuse to compromise!

Hi Bill.
I'm an Obama supporter and I'm bothered a bit by your characterization of people like me. Let me assure you that I do not now -- nor have I ever lived in a "cardboard box" or expected to "do less and be happy with what [the] gov [sic] gives [me]."

I'd like to think that you are probably a nice, decent, hardworking guy, but your pouty, foot stomping, sour grapes post suggests that you believe that only freeloaders could ever support the president. I think you might want to take a look at this breakdown of the infamous "47%."

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/dependency-and-romneys-47-percenters/

Note that the number is actually 46.4%, that 22% of those are seniors, 15.2% are considered to be "working poor." The rest "ended up owing no federal income tax due to various tax expenditures such as education credits, itemized deductions or reduced rates on capital gains and dividends. Most of this group are in the middle to upper income brackets. In fact, the TPC estimates there are about 7,000 families and individuals who earn $1 million a year or more and still pay no federal income tax."

@ Dawn

The information you provided is well known to educated people who think, which is not the case for people like Bill, Republicans of course, who did not "make it." So, they need someone to blame for their misery and they need scapegoats.

Bill, your comments were right on the mark. We will next be changing the Declaration Of Independence to read: " Life, liberty, and the pursuit of handouts". I fear for the America we will be leaving our children and grandchildren. Burlington Butch

quasi,
How do you define "middle class"?

Diana,
what exactly about this post is nonsense?? Did I write something that is not accurate, or is it just something that you dont like so you deem it nonsense

wow Barbara, Thanks for filling me in. its the republicans on congress that are to blame. Fantastic. Six kids huh? try doing that in 2012 on 60k per year, after your food, fuel and health costs, you may have enough for a small coffee. Oh and my idea of middle class is someone earning 40-80k per year. I am right in the middle of that with two kids and i have a hard time getting by in obamas world. Now that I know it is congress who is responsible, that changes everything.

Oh yeah, work under the table! Take that money out of the tax stream so that those who report their income/whose income is reported for them have to pay more! Talk about your vicious cycle!

Oh and there's an article in the NYT about how shocked Republicans are that women don't like their candidates - one conservative Catholic, one whose Grandfather was a polygamist and whose 'church - cult more like it' - does not allow women clergy (oops, two of those) and two who think that women who are raped deserve to get pregnant and bear a rapist's child. Republicans - enemies of logic!

Some of us are with you Bill, but im not sure how long....We may quit our jobs soon so we can eat shrimp and get free health care on the tax payers.

Interesting read. I wonder how President Obama's job's czar Jeffery Imelt can talk about US manufacturing after closing American plants and sending them to China?
Oh yea, all of Warren's Wall Street donors were the ones that want reform right?

Anyone who believes EITHER party cares about the middle class has their head firmly in the sand!

this attitude is exactly what is wrong with this country.

eat it Republicans - your 19th century racism, sexism and white supremacy is over. You can whine all you want, we have a real democracy in action. Your fear mongering crap is over...and none of you can take it like a man. At least Romney had the class to accept that. Go back to listening to your lying Rush Fatbaugh and the Right Wing nut job propaganda Fox news. Eat it Republicans!

While I appreciate your sentiment Dickerson Wallack, you can't call Republicans sexists and in the same breath tell them they can't "take it like a man". Just sayin...

my bad, "take it like an adult"

I think the House of Representatives should look into exactly what happened in Benghazi (sp? ). Tough way to start off your second term, but there are unanswered questions that must be addressed.

VERY classy Dickerson Wallack.

David, You are right. if our elected members of Congress do their jobs Impeachment proceedings are certain. The Libyan crisis & the subsequent cover-up and lies are impeachable offenses. I don't want to burst anyone's bubble but even Obama is not above the law.

Promise?

Obviously, The Liberal Elite will watch over all of its dependents and insure that they vote for there supplier.

Thats pretty much a done deal!

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-29/the-end-is-coming-january-1-2013

Talking about Socialism. Isn't the defense industry, also known as the military-industrial complex, the blatant form of Socialism in this country?

Hope is not what we will get from this election. I imagine $15.00 a gallon gas by the end of his 4 more years, more jobs sent off to his buddy's in China, America at the bottom of the list for World Super Powers. I pray for my children's future in this country, and for this country that USED to be so strong

Did Khrushchev come out of the grave for that one? Typical bully behavior, how about you idiots fix your party's love of the American Taliban Fundamentalist Christians, their desire to demote women to second class citizens, your ridiculously moronic "beliefs" on Evolution, and your F**k the middle class attitudes. Maybe then you can get people with a brain to vote for you. Wake up, your party is irrelevant and the sour attempt with the Tea baggers is dead. Eat it Republicans.

Don't bother arguing with them, Irene. No matter what, the Democrats will turn on you.. Yes Nikita did say that. I remember it all very well.
Now, I've been called a "Teabagger", and although I don't belong to the Tea Party, I'd be proud to stand with them since they only wish to uphold our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
ChemsfordMom, don't bother....This guy, Wallack, is very arrogant and ignorant.

Once again, Americans have short memories and short attention spans, History repeats itself, All great Empires eventually fail because of the willingness of the people to blindly follow the "Leader"......Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

cool - so you're on board with legitimate rape? Lower pay for the same work? Tax breaks for millionaires? And while not a Christian, you're down with the right's agenda to force us into a Fundamentalist Christian doctrine? As a country we moved so far to the right, we need a hell of a lot more than a lean to get us back to normal.

Dickerson, seriously? You really think a woman is on board with legimate rape? Of course not!! And since I'm definitely not of the the Christian or Catholic persuasian I am definitely not cool with any kind of fundamentalist agenda. But, just because I am socially liberal doesn't mean I can't be *somewhat* fiscally conservative, too. And when I say fiscally conservative, I am talking about letting EBT cards be handed out...but with restrictions...I know this may make you and other folks shudder. But there has to be *some kind* of cost controls in order to maintain a reasonably balanced budget. I don't understand why people don't even get that concept, or are willing to consider why it's necessary. I would like to be able to retire some day but there may not be social security when it's my time, and who knows what kind of financial situation our kids will have. So it's not like the non-uhber liberals are meanies, we're just trying to get to a place where our taxes are reasonable and we can afford to raise our children in a safe, stable environment. I don't think that is too much to ask.

ChelmsfordMom - what do you expect from someone who gets his "news" from WEEI?

And how do customer's, employees, etc... get to those businesses without "roads"?

That is absurd. Communism do you know what it even means or stands for other then the conditions that the average person might live under? In places like Russia you had the few, who controlled all Power, wealth, even who lived and died and passed it on to their children and grand children they were just 1% of the population and with their money and position ruled great power of the mass of people. That is Communism begun under Joseph Stalin. Today take a look around you some people like myself have small businesses that allow us to enjoy a middle class life style will I become a Wall street of Hedge Fund Mogul, I certainly hope not. Yet lets face it the stock market they control and that effects most peoples jobs, interest rates even to a great extent average worker compensation and benefits. We are more like a communist country today then in the last 60 years with a growing divide. Wake up look around you yes we still have a glimmer of opportunity for our children through education and hard work but look at the cost to them of school loans. Debt that took me decades to amass in expanding 3 businesses and by the time they are 22 they have the same amount of debt as I did when I bought my house. Who do they pay that loan to? Not us to the 1%. It took that elite group to get their hooks into my generation decades for this current one under 4 years. Now that is Communism look it up.

Edward, let me assure you I have a pretty good idea of what communism is like. My family left the largest communist country in the world to the US for a better life. But now we feel like we are moving towards exactly what we fled. And that's more than a little daunting.

It took 8 Bush years to screw this country up, Obama now has a full 8 to try and fix us. The people have spoken and we should all get behind Obama.

No, Obama spent the first 4 years trying to bankrupt the country while blaming it on Bush. Granted, Bush did leave a deficit, but Obama increased it. He only has 4 years to make it better. He has inherited is own mess. Good luck to him. He need to learn to compromise with the House and the Senate. As they also need to learn the same. WITHOUT SELLING US COMPLETELY TO CHINA. He though it was a "tough row to hoe" in his first term, it just got tougher. His ego will not let him give way to a smaller deal.

Oh, oh wait, the hats for his campaign were made in China. Oh.

Not only did he purchase those hats as part of his undercover research on Chinese imports and exports, but he totally negotiated a below-cost purchase price by making those greedy Mongols believe that he would be back to buy buttons, keychains, bumper stickers and mugs in bulk. Not only did he obtain information that will strike at the heart of The Great Wall Street Of China, he took their money in the process.

Bye! Don't bother to write, we'll just assume you're fine.

There is a story now that our drone was attacked by Iran back on November 1st and this is just coming out now. The excuse is that the drone was on a classified mission but it wasn't over any Iranian territory. So it looks like they hid the story because it might show the American people we need a president who isn't going to cut defense as Obama has said he will do. We can't trust the media anymore if they insist on protecting this man instead of being straight with the American public.

Mike, sadly, you are right, these blind sheep are soon to find out how bad it will really get. We live in a state that by far has the least educated electorate on what there choices actually result in. Higher taxes,more entitlements,the death of the middle class. Thanks Diana for killing our kids future

Exactly. These name callers are a bunch of poopypantses.

Sheepal? Cudos? Free abortions? Were you following The Onion for your news? I am so confused.

Yea, that's the way to take the high road Amy! Like those ads lying about Jeep jobs being moved to China? That high road? Or like the racist slant on voting in Florida? That high road?

Amy,
I agree, Republicans need to take a page from the Liberal play book. Tell them what they want to hear. If you say it enough times the "masses" believe it.

@STHrouda: I think you've got that COMPLETELY BACK-ASSWARDS!!!

Good for you Amy, a women who gets it. You have a brain and you can use it. Thank you for showing me that my wife is not alone.(she is also a smart, strong woman who can think for her self).

Racists. Really? Are you still going there? thanks for laugh. I needed that.

@Amy: So you have a problem with the "racist" part, but you will concede the misogynist, ignorant & lying labels? Excellent!

You are so outside your mind i can't even write a comment that you will understand. I hope you don't have kids.

1. Because people love America and want to see the country succeed?
2. Six, seven years sounds about right.

Any others? Those were pretty easy.

A lot of substance there Avon, thanks for the input.

Yeah right. Bipartisan except for the votes that really counted. Scott Yellow spent the whole campaign lying and trying to hide the fact that he is a Republican.

JT... Bi-partisan means crossing the aisle and voting against your party once in awhile.. Do you honestly think Warren will ever vote against her party??? I don't believe you want Bi-Partisanship you just want everyone to agree your liberal views...

Bipartisan? Oh, please. He made a few well-placed, meaningless votes against his party when the outcome was "safe" just so he could use it as a campaign tool. Did not work. On the important stuff he was red through and through.

JG, I cannot agree more , If Mass. had put Teddy K's corpse in a suit he would have beat Sen. Brown.

Paul,
The agenda was not voted down, it was fabricated by the Obama team and promoted by the media. I bet you can't even summarize the Republican agenda.

I am concerned that the legalization of marijuana will be a jobs-killer. All those thousands and thousands of jobs building, maintaining and staffing shiny new prisons were based on mandatory sentencing for minor drug offenders. What will happen when free weed crashes the corrections industry? We need to get high on crackdowns, not crack.

Well, people are upset about the military industrial complex that Bush overbuilt. But no one gets upset at every president since Nixon and their complicity in the Prison Industrial complex in America.

Legal marijuana would hurt the prison industry, but in turn it would rob Mexican Drug Cartels of revenue, it would create jobs in the farming and cultivation levels, it would create more distribution opportunities for trucks and trains, it would become another commodity to be traded to other countries, there would be marketing opportunities, such as Willie Nelson and Snoop Dogg product endorsements. The list goes on and on.

But the biggest thing of all, it would tip the budget scales away from the red. Instead of spending billions on the war on drugs, law enforcement could better focus on hard drugs, while the feds collect tax revenue from the marijuana.

For all of you Dems who decided you didn't want Republicans regulating what women could do to their bodies, its now time to ask why the government is still allowed to regulate this.

I know you guys hate facts, but.....

Amidst all the cries of Barack Obama being the most prolific big government spender the nation has ever suffered, Marketwatch is reporting that our president has actually been tighter with a buck than any United States president since Dwight D. Eisenhower.

This is their MO. The modern Democratic party is a coalition of special interest victim groups who proclaim to be tolerant but in reality espouse a venomous attack on anyone who doesn't fall in line with their leftist socialism. They break election laws, they register anyone with a pulse, bus them to the voting site, and dictate to them who to vote for, and they promise lots of "free" stuff, paid for by the taxpayers of Foxboro and other middle class towns across America. They look out for women, as long as they are liberal women. If they are conservative women who think for themselves they are derided as mere barbie dolls "too stupid to understand" and mocked and ridiculed as clueless idiots. This is the party where twitter exploded with death threats and violence threats if Romney won the election. All of this occurs yet the biased media ignores it. At the end of all this these sick people point their hypocritical finger at self reliant conservatives as 'hateful bigotted racists'.

Paul Ryan 2016? Sounds awesome to me too. Keep on trotting out angry white guys with no leadership qualities and extremist economic positions, seems to be working well.

"leadership qualities" - Really? You think the president has leadership qualities? A one term senator, and now a two term president, that has been unable to bring parties together to get the job done? Listen Avon, Barack won, I'm not happy with this and I honestly hope he can fix the $hit storm that the USofA is currently in, but for you to say he has leadership qualities is not accurate.

Where did I say that Barack Obama has leadership qualities? Hopefully President Obama can establish some reading comprehension and adult literacy classes in the next four years. And no, you can't extrapolate from "the GOP candidates don't have leadership qualities" that it's implicit that the Democratic candidate does. Yikes. It means that if the GOP keeps trotting these stiffs out there, they'll keep losing. That's all, the rest is in your mind.

My comprehension of your post is right on. And yes, I can extrapolate from your comment that you believe Obama has leadership qualities. Unless you voted for him not as a leader, but for another reason? Ahhh...reading between the lines I am. Yes sir! Calling Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney stiffs and angry white men with no leadership qualities?? Huh. Interesting. Why do you consider these men angry? Because they are white and republican? No leadership? Being elected to his 8th consecutive term as congressman. Taking MA from red to black (think finance, not race). I believe the angry man is you and I will assume this by your choice to play the race card. It's rather unfortunate that you see the need for economic reform as an extreme position. Let's talk again in a few months. We'll see how our economy is doing. I hope I'm wrong, believe me, I do!! G'day.

Dude, when you get punched in the face, kicked in the groin and all the other cheap and dirty junk ponied up by the Right-Wing slanted media and ditto heads, you are a moron if you don't fight back. When the Republicans can come back to reality, drop the leash of their mind controlling uber-lord Grover Norquist, maybe we can have civility. Until then and as long as they lie, corrupt logic and cheat at every turn, anyone being civil will just get their butts kicked by these bullies.

Lies in the Patch may not get someone elected but it is a shame that lying sure worked for Obama. But I guess that's Politics!

Yes Mike, I agree, but first we must all agree that Avon Barksdale is an idiot.

JT
That is a racist statement!

And of single women, over 60 percent voted for Obama. Guess they don't want wacko white men telling them what choices they have.

Woo Hoo -- quasi !!!

It is admirable goal to adopt a spirit of togetherness. Problem is I don't think enough people are willing to give up a little to gain a lot. For most, it's all or nothing. That is what is splitting this country apart.

The Prez. sure has done a great job of bringing everyone together from reading these comments. Class war fare, the race card, name calling etc. Well he got his revenge. I guess that's where we are now.

Love it Carol, I hope that we can all see the peril in where we are,and how we divide.Need to find a way to be America United again.

p.s. thanks for bringing it back to earth.

Thanks for saying that, Fiscal Conservative. I think lots of people across the political spectrum feel that way. It's a shared concern. Is it possible to restore public trust? What would be necessary to do so? The distrust makes us fearful and the fear sets us against each other and makes us all miserable.

But, Fiscal, you elected these people and they represent you and you're one of them. What make you think that you are soooo special?

Quasimoto: Correction, YOU helped to elect them, I didn't. I am part of the process, not all of it. True, they are now OUR representatives, I must live with their decisions, as you do. Do I have to agree with them? No. You seem to forget that this country was founded by those who disagreed with their govt. Do you feel that they were unjustified for disagreeing? Get off your "high horse", there will always be those who disagree. Whether I favor or agree with your ideas makes no difference because, like me, you are a nothing to those in power. If you think that those in power truly care for you, you are ignorant. Their caring ended yesterday. They won't care again until the next election cycle begins.As long as I believe that our form of govt, good or bad, is far better than the alternatives that is the important thing.

Janet, Paul Ryan is too far to the right. If he and Mitt gave in on some reproductive rights issues I think the outcome would have been different. In 2016, we need to elect someone who is more fiscally conservative but socially liberal. I think that is where the country is going. The country has changed.

I can only hope that Ryan becomes the next republican candidate for Pres. Then it will be an even bigger landslide for the Dems. Women voted big against Romney. They will go even bigger against that right wing wacko Ryan. Ryan disappeared at the end of the campaign because even Romney was afraid to let him out in public.

Janet, number one- I am a VOLUNTEER CONTRIBUTOR to Patch. I am not, nor have I ever been a Patch employee, nor have I ever been paid by Patch in any way.

Number two, Janet... look, dishonesty lost. Give it up.

Paul Ryan isn't even a republican, he is a teabagger!!! If that's the direction the republican's want to head, there will NEVER be another republican president!

You should be terrified, Who will pay the bill for the current "spend and tax administration"? will it be your mom?, your kids?, You?.....Yes all of the above. Thanks dems. Assuring the path of the destruction of the America as we know it.

The caps on 'Party' was unintentional. Nothing implied.

Thanks Linda, but where to begin?? It's going to take many, many years to make it happen. Oh, and a whole lot of $$$.

Maybe something like this http://uscentrist.org/platform/positions

Janet, the Medical Marijuana movement long predates Obama. As for your other conspiracy theories there, I can only ask that you leave a little tinfoil for those of us that want to save leftovers, your hat is way too big already.

"Michelle Obama eating her fried chicken, while pushing the healthy eating agenda" - Janet Sroczynski . Well, that white hood is pathetic.... nice.

Love Saul Glick, Always tells it like it is. although only those of us in the real business world will understand what he is saying.

We may be "Center Left," but we are NOT Socialist. This is why, in Sparta, you didn't get to vote until you were considered old enough to know better.

Janet, please explain: "Michelle Obama eating her fried chicken, while pushing the healthy eating agenda." From your post above. Obviously, by the color of your hood, you aren't aware that White isn't supposed be worn after Labor Day.

Paul are you inferring Janet is a member of the same group as Former Democrat Senate Pro-Temp Robert Byrd? Because she mentioned Michelle Obama loves fried chicken? Really?

This is from Michelle, I wonder what color hood she wears...

"(Food) is always there, always there," Mrs. Obama said. "I am no different from anybody else. I love the good, wonderful, comforting things in life: Mac-and-cheese, fried chicken, hash browns...I don’t want anybody to look at me somehow as having some supernatural willpower."

that's like the Republican dream, ain't it JG...too bad you're in for a shocker when this all pans out for a better economy, check back in about 2014.

Actually Dickerson, the dream was to get a person in place who could lead us out of this mess. The Community Organizer is so far over is head and unfortunatley the American people are going to have to pay for his total lack of experience..

Dickerson, I sure hope you're right. In the meantime, our taxes are going up in about 8 weeks http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/payroll-tax-increase-2012_n_2000217.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

The payroll tax was going to happen regardless of who won the election.

WOW, paranoid much? I thought that new marijuana law didn't kick in until next year!

So in the spirit of self reliance, I suspect none of you will take ANY "handouts" (future and past) such as, SS, unemployment benefits, FEMA help, planned parenthood, etc.... right?

Why is it so bad to make money?? I just don't get it.

Without prejudice? Riiiiiight.

Making money is not bad, not paying your equal share of tax is.
That's what R dont wanted?
--B

bk,
You call that a clean slate??? I call that blatant bias.
Shame on you.
I thought Liberals were against "generalizations"

Read item 2 and 4 again and tell me why would many in Tewksbury align with Romney?
How many families we have in Tewksbury who earn over 250,000 who may get taxed more.
I know and you know what were you "looking" for in these two presidential candidates... bunch of R...
--B

Seriously? WE are talking about the leader of the free world,not an inspiring cheerleader. The stock market crashed,and will continue to fall is because the average middle class American is looking to hide there cash before Obama takes it.

OllieD you are absolutely right.

Ollie,
Conservatives have no "representatives" in this state.

Ollie, I sense some buyers remorse. Are you getting scared?

Fiscal, I am sad to agree,but my son will be the one who will have to suffer the pain of his horrible life in this new America.

Sure, as long as you agree with me that no matter how well the economy is doing, no matter if the consensus among economists is that the economy is moving in the right direction given the context of the times and circumstances, that you will still scream and wail "HIS POLICIES AREN'T WORKING" based on whatever stooge Fox News trots out there to cherry-pick whichever statistics indicate negative results. Quid pro quo, just so we're all being honest here.

Agreed Avon, see you in two years.

So long as the House doesn't block every initiative that is brought to them just to stifle the dems/pres, in the hopes that they can win the whitehouse in '16!!!

Good point, now maybe try to drop the 7th grade name calling. See, that is how you lose us 'Independents'. Otherwise you make good sense.

One thing about the main stream media - http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/how-conservative-media-lost-to-the-msm-and-failed-the-rank-and-file/264855/ I think its hard to agree with the post's conclusion, no?

Go forth and prosper, but its going to take work. But nothing easy was ever worth it.

I loved Scott Brown's "Vote The Candidate, Not the Party" stance that he abruptly re-adopted in the last week of his campaign. Know what would have made me believe him? If he dropped out of the GOP and ran as an independent. If he wanted credit for being an independent, dump all the financial backing of the party and don't be beholden to anyone. Run as the candidate, not the party.

Fred, Interesting story and I agree with it. I was saying it was going to be tight for Romney to win.

One thing I didn't see in that article was the MSM protecting the President by releasing a video of a 60 minutes interview about Libya Sunday night instead of a few weeks ago when it would have shown he lied in the second debate. He didn't consider it terrorism the day he gave his speech in the rose garden. Hmmm

98% of Americans think Libya is somewhere in Mexico, they wouldn't base their voting decision on terrorism there unless they thought an illegal alien did the killing.

This article doesn't address the power of the "mainstream" media and its affect on elections. Day after day of left wing propaganda, lies by omission (Benghazi was completely whitewashed), takes its toll on a public already experiencing information overload. I would bet a boat load of money that the overwhelming majority of voters who paid very little attention to anything but news headlines and some pop culture coverage supported Obama. If even a small fraction of these idiots didn't vote, Romney would have won. The so called intellectuals make up a tiny base of the Democratic coalition. The overwhelming majority of democratic supporters are poorer, undereducated, and living off the backs of the rest of us.

Way to go, Dave, painting the majority of voters who chose Obama in these elections with such a broad brush. By your logic, are you suggesting that the majority of GOP voters are highly educated, wealthy, politically savvy and pay their fair share of taxes, as opposed to Democrat voters? LOL!

Now if we could send you and another 534 like you to congress, we would be getting somewhere!

For me, I was willing to give him a chance until he shoved Obamacare down our throats. Now, we have socialized medicine. Elections have consequenses. We'll see if he continues to govern from the far left. I have no reason to believe he wouldn't. But I won't boo, I'll vote. That's the best revenge.

Amy, are there other terms you understand as poorly as "socialized medicine"? Do you have a dictionary? Or perhaps you need someone to define "dictionary" for you before you can get one. Hmm, this could be a tough one...

I voted for Carter in my first election. :) He must be feeling pretty good now. He's no longer the worst President ever!

@Amy: I know, that honor belongs to W

I love your passion about what is going on in this country. I share your hope for the future.Please look up the definition of Socialist. and yes i do feel bad for you,you can handle yourself, but you cannot recover from what will be thrust upon you in the future. You will never be able to retire. You will not have enough money to pay off your mortgage, You will always have debt. You are F***ed. Sorry, remember the Dems did this to you

In making such prophecies--in itself a questionable, historically unwise activity--you inevitably raise the question: What if you are wrong? How much energy are you willing to expend to make SURE that you are wrong? How much are YOU willing to do--to compromise, to empathize, to change--in order to guarantee a better world for everyone? Not only you and your children, but all Americans? Or are you, as so many on this Patch seem, quite dedicated to the cause of disaster, just so long as you can blame "the dems"? Oddly enough, Mr. Boehner gets it. Do you???

@J Mac: America is Great! Can we do better? Of course, and House willing, we will. Enough of your fear mongering, over the top doom & gloom already! This is reality, time to accept it. For the well-being of your son, don't fill his head with all of your fear & don't let him (or anyone you care about) watch FOX News - it messes with peoples minds. ".......what can you do for your country?"

Are you just copy/pasting from blogs circa 2005?

This is exactly what I was referring to. If people continue on with this theory that the country will be coming to an end because President Obama was reelected, we the people of the United States, are going to have a larger problem on our hands. If there is an unwillingness to reach out and cross partisan lines at times, then we will continue to be "divided," as you put it. I'm not saying that everything must be an appeasement to both sides, but there needs to be some idea of cooperation. This nation can still continue to be great, but attitudes like this are not going to help that happen in the slightest. It swings both ways!

I don't think Obama divided this country.
Could it be that this division was in the minds of people that just got out seeing 'him'
reaching for the office.
-B

Sounds like you're not just a "Fiscal Conservative".

If the term Liberal had the same connotation today that it did years ago (Stood for Liberty), I would consider myself a Liberal. Unfortunately, today it stands for Regulating to the extreme, redistribution of one's earnings and many other social programs that infringe on one's liberities. I am a very charitable person, giving to charities of MY CHOICE. I probably give a greater %age of my income to charity than the "so called" Liberals (ask Joe Biden). I do this because I wish to. It is a moral obligation to "voluntarily" help others. It is not my obligation to have others confiscate my income and squander it foolishly. The more the govt takes from me, the less I have to give to quality charities. I give only to organizations that utilize what I give to the utmost. Unlike govt agencies that have too many employees, too many benfits, etc. 90% + of what I give is utilized properly. Can you say the same for the way govt spends YOURS & MY tax dollars? If you believe that what govt does with your $$$, I truly feel sorry for you, because you are a fool to allow this useless spending of OUR $$$ and just stand by doing/saying nothing about it. I was taught not to waste by parents who busted their asses to provide for me. Get over the fact that I'm probably a much better citizen because I'm "frugal" and watch where my $$$ goes. I'm sick of politicians telling me they know better than I do. That's crap!!!

How come when Republicans win a majority it's the voice of the people, when Democrats win it's "the machine"? If I'm part of a machine I would like to be the handle, or possibly the U/L listing sticker.

JG, I understand where you are coming from, but at the same time, it was the majority vote of the people of Massachusetts that elected them. As a state, we elected them. Sure, I can see that you're frustrated. I think we all are to a certain extent. But there is no one at fault for electing these officials in. We all exercised the same right, and the Democrats prevailed. If there is no one that you believe is truly speaking up for you in Washington, speak up and say something yourself! It's not a machine, it's the vote of the American people. And if that's what you think a Ponzi scheme is, perhaps you should read up on the definition of a Ponzi scheme a little more.

Brown wasn't crossing that aisle on any important matters. He was bought and paid for by the republican machine.

Hey look! It's the EXACT SAME arguments that were made against the Family And Medical leave Act! In other news, the sky fell in 1938 due to the Works Progress Administration.

Oh just shut up and go under the bridge where you came from, you troll!!
You have every right to express your opinion but enough with these lies and hatred.
Give it a rest now.
The country has spoken and Obama has won. Your lies and scare tactics lost and we do have an idea what we voted for.

Then form or join a union and fight back.

Saul Glick... Oh, they know what they voted for.... "a rising rock star". They love his "swagger" when he walks, they way he runs onto a stage...not walk like everyone else, his arrogance. They think he's "cool". I'll bet if you ask many who voted for him to give an example of an accomplishment of his...they wouldn't be able to come up with one, but he's a cool guy. I've finally figured something out. I thought where there are so may unemployed in this country, he would be thrown out on his butt...but, I now think that many of the millions unemployed "like it that way". They don't have work...they can stay home...and get paid for it. There are probably other benefits some qualify for. Why give up the freebies. Keep Obama in office, and they're taken care of. They don't care that this economy is going down the tubes. They might have to go out and get a job. A good, decent, caring man was rejected. I believe he could have possibly been one of the best presidents ever. Well, there's still "BENGAZI"..... let's stay tuned !!!\

This is why the United States is in such an exclamation point deficit to the Chinese, I can only hope that people will conserve their punctuation wisely so that we do not face a pending semicolon gap.

Well said A.j. we are going down....sad but true. Avon is blinded, like many,may he someday think for himself.

HIPAA would only apply if they were asking for your medical records. Knowing who your insurer is does not violate HIPAA.

All they want to see is that you had coverage for the year, they don't care what kind of plan you had.

Note: I'm not defending the practice, but let's get our story straight here.

U mad bro?

Avon,
I suggest you take English lessons before you comment any further.

I'm American & I've been happy all day!!! It's great that she hugged the Queen. We don't have to worry about the English etiquette thing, we stopped abiding by their rules about 236 years ago. Did you have a problem with all of W's traveling or him running the country from the "little whitehouse" in Texas?

Yeah, I needs me sum English lessonz soze i kin read yer name wit no vwlz

Dave! Your're back!!!! At least a Democrat I can respect!!!!!!!!! Congrats my friend! And please look at it from my point of view.....if you cant laugh and make jokes....what can ya do?

I missed you, too. I think you would make a great politician!

Who was to blame when the DOW dropped all the way to 6,000 under Bush? Just curious. Here's a tip: when you don't know what you're talking about, those that do laugh at you.

Commonsense,
I think there was a matter of terrorists crashing jets into wall street and other such inconvenient truths that may have contributed to the stock market crash in Bush's first nine months in office. Then there was the housing bubble issue promulgated by the Community Reinvestment act of 1977. Then there was Wall street not helping by packaging and selling derivatives. Those are just the highlights contributing to the stock market decline in Bush's terms in office. So how was any of this Bush's fault?

Joe Biden would be the BEST dinner companion on the planet. I couldn't imagine the jokes and stories he would tell. But to have him as CinC -- Y I K E S !!!!!!!!!!!

Stay healthy, O-Man

So, so true. In Peabody we see people get onto School Committee pledging to build new schools. "Teachers can't teach in what we have today." Parents scream their approval, without thinking that the new school would be open long after their kids are too old to go there, and then the MCAS results come in and we find that "Teachers can't teach" in the new buildings, either.

What is absolutely frightening is that these are the same tactics, and motives, seen 70+ years ago in Germany, and it largely goes back to Machiavelli (if you've never read "The Prince" you should.... it's a "how to" manual that will shed light on why politicians choose political expediency over doing what's right.

It's true, they are outsourcing the job of writing the customer's names on Starbucks cups to Mongolia. It's all over Reddit today.

Go back to sleep, you idiot.

When you don't have an answer, Mac, attack the messenger. Who's the idiot?

Keep goin Janet, some day you might make a dent in the liberal mob mentality,good luck.

J. Parker, I am sorry the bubble you thought was reality burst the other night. I know it surprised Karl Rove as well. Anyhow, here is a link that proves everything you cut and pasted from a chain email you received is false. It covers everything you posted above and more: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/

The simple fact is what you have been told is wrong. It goes against Obama so you believed it. I don't know you personally, so I can't speak to your level of intelligence, so I won't call you dumb. And I am certainly not saying Democrats are always correct. What I *am* saying is that when something sounds so completely and absolutely foolish (like what you posted above, Sarah Palin's concept of "Death Panels" or the idea Obama was not an American Citizen), believing those things and repeating them as fact makes you look even more foolish. People *will* question your intelligence at that point.

There are facts and there are talking points. PLEASE note the difference. The majority of the United States already has.

I love that you took the time to correct J. Parker, but sadly, unless Fox News reports this over and over and over and over and over and over and over, about 47% of Americans just won't believe it. It's only true if Fox says it's true.

DannyBoy: It would be nice to see the sides work together, FOR US. I wouldn't be willing bet a weeks pay that it will happen. You may see "stop gap" efforts taking place, but I don't think those 535 will ever sit down and work for the common good of the country. Reid, Boenher, Mitchell, Pelosi & the President will see to it that that "Main Street America" continues to get screwed. Face it, those in power are corrupt, owned by Special Interests. All in Congress are 1%ers, do you really think they want to take $$$ from their pockets, when it is easier to take it from YOU & ME?