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How long should a shoveled out place be honored?

Seen enough of the Lawn Chairs in the street?
Nothing hurts more than to shovel out the car - then to have someone else take the spot.  It hurts more when someone takes that spot and took no effort to clean where they were parked in. Common Courtesy or just plain rude ?

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Ron Swanson January 07, 2014 at 09:33 PM
Shoveled out space should be honored until enough snow melts to where there's no longer a need to parallel park between snow banks. After yesterday's thaw, probably at that point already.
Just a Medford Guy January 07, 2014 at 09:43 PM
Agreed, Ron. I'm in a weird spot. My side-street is one in a few where it's not Permit Parking Only. Behooves me to know how non-resident owners tell residents they can't use the driveway.
Just a Medford Guy January 07, 2014 at 09:46 PM
But to the point - these people don't actually "shovel out a spot" for themselves. They clear off the windshield at most, then drive off - only to take a spot someone else actually took the time to clear. I'm lucky where I only have 2 cars and a driveway to accommodate both.
Ron Swanson January 07, 2014 at 09:52 PM
Those people should have a window broken or tire slashed! But if the person who did clear the space doesn't put in a placeholder like a chair or trash barrel they can't complain.
Just a Medford Guy January 07, 2014 at 10:18 PM
OK - I hear ya Ron. But most of us civilized people would be hesitant of breaking a window / slashing tires. I've gone through the trouble of printing out a message stating "I wish you didn't take the spot I shoveled out" and putting it on their windshield - In hopes next time they wouldn't do it again.
Ron Swanson January 07, 2014 at 10:22 PM
Haha, I am not condoning violence. But if a space stealer (if 'reserved' with a chair) did later find their window broken it would be deserved.
Marie Hayes January 07, 2014 at 10:36 PM
What about the homeowner who commandeers the only crosswalk on a busy street as her parking space before every snowstorm, then saves the spot with a trash barrel. What is the best way to deal with her?
Ron Swanson January 07, 2014 at 10:40 PM
Isn't it illegal to park in a crosswalk? If so, call to the police should be enough.
Marie Hayes January 07, 2014 at 10:55 PM
It is illegal, no tickets were issued.
Just a Medford Guy January 07, 2014 at 11:54 PM
Should have been.
Rooboo January 08, 2014 at 06:02 AM
All of these parking spaces are public. There should be NO grace period. You shovel a spot and it's yours as long as your car is parked in it. Who ever heard of saving parking spots. If no one saved a spot all the parking spots would be dug out in a day. Ron, you are what's wrong with this town. Breaking someone's window for parking in a public space isn't going to attract a viable tax base in this city.
raymay January 08, 2014 at 02:23 PM
Rest assured, if I'm in my car after a storm it meant I somehow managed to get out of my spot. I don't expect it to be there when I return, just as no one has a right to claim a public parking spot as their own. That's nuts. I have to return to "my" spot once I'm out??
Lisa January 08, 2014 at 02:44 PM
I always have and always will put a marker on my spot. It's not right for someone to just swoop in and take a spot that I've busted my butt clearing out. Living near Tufts, it's imperative that I hold my spot. Now that even/odd parking only goes into effect during a snow emergency, the need to mark a spot does not last much longer than a couple of days now. That greatly eases the limited parking in the city.
Ron Swanson January 08, 2014 at 07:13 PM
1st of all, this isn't a problem for me since I have a driveway. However, space saving has been an unofficial policy on my street (all two family houses and many renters) for years. As anyone knows, an area that may have accommodated two cars may only fit one after once snow banks take up space, so parking is at a premium. Somehow, without fail, the car that was parked and person who cleared the space always seems to get the same spot post storm. People know which spot they shoveled and gravitate to the same one. Someone who knowingly steals a space (for overnight, etc) is behaving anti-socially. As Lisa pointed out, the duration of saving has gone down a lot with the new winter parking rules.
Ginny Roche January 08, 2014 at 09:38 PM
When the storm hit overnight My husband and I made sure We were up early to clear our cars out. It took about 2 hours, this was in front of my house. I live on a corner so naturally I did not clear the 5 cars parked on the side. We did however clear the corner and the entire sidewalk front to back. My husband left for work and I left to check on our business. Within 1 hour both our spots were taken by people who lived 4 houses up the street. They also left the cars there overnight. Disgusting if you ask me. The five cars who were parked on the side wiped their cars off and drove away leaving mounds of snow. I understand it is a public street but have a little decency and common courtesy. Do I have to clear every spot I park in? When my husband came home that night he did put a note on their cars saying next snowstorm it's your turn to do the spot. Ughhhh I hate snow!
rdmn1 January 08, 2014 at 11:10 PM
Rooboo and Raymay, I don't understand your stance on this issue- Are you the ones who pull out of your spot without shoveling - this way you feel you have the right to pull into any spot you find when you return? When you have spent 2+ hours clearing snow, then yes others should have some common courtesy not to take that spot. If you didn't shovel it you shouldn't take it. At least until there is some type of melting so you don't have to go searching for another one.
Rooboo January 09, 2014 at 04:42 AM
Actually no rdmn1, that's not how it works or should work. You don't own that spot in the street. If you need a spot 24hrs a day then you should either buy or rent a place which comes with a dedicated spot for your apt/property. Believe it or not but I pay taxes on the two parking spots ON my property and as a result I have a say concerning who parks there...it's a simple concept.
raymay January 09, 2014 at 09:14 AM
rdmn1, when I pull out of my spot, I lose all claim to it whether I've busted my hump shoveling it out or not. What I hear on this site is that "I've spent so long shoveling out my car that I've earned the right to my space." The point of shoveling out the car is to gain access to the *car*, not to the space. So you can drive it out of that space!! Then again, I say that as an able-bodied adult who doesn't need (or expect) to park in front of my house. The house next to mine has handicapped plates. They pretty much have a dedicated parking space in front; everyone else is deemed as able to walk to and from their cars and homes, wherever they might be. I would suggest to all of you who have an attachment to the space you happen to park in that you spend less time shoveling. It seems like it engenders a sense of ownership, and certainly resentment.
Just a Medford Guy January 09, 2014 at 06:34 PM
Thanks to all for the feedback. Looks like we have both sides of the issue out there. There is no simple answer, and every neighborhood is different. In my humble opinion, I think there should be a courtesy consideration for a few days to those who shovel out a spot. Then again, I mean they "really shovel out the spot" - both front and back - and not just clear the snow off the car and leave the remnants in the street/sidewalk. Let's be truthful - there are inconsiderate people out there that just don't care. Point in fact: My neighborhood has a landscaping company running out of their home on a residential street (illegal). They have a pick-up truck with a plow attached parked in the same space for days on end (not even in their driveway). When they leave to plow for a storm - or run out for something, they put a car in the spot to "hold it". They don't even have the courtesy to plow out the 5 spaces available for other cars (and they have at least 5 cars in that household). For me, I have a snowblower and I make sure I get both my neighbors sidewalks for at least a good clear path (I live on a corner) especially during a weekday and they are at work. That's just me being a good neighbor.
Shaun Macdonald February 06, 2014 at 09:26 AM
does anyone know how many days you get to keep a parking spot on street if you shoveled your car out,i think its 3 days,im just not sure,thx
Rooboo February 06, 2014 at 01:18 PM
No days.
Ron Swanson February 08, 2014 at 11:16 PM
Shaun, if you mean how long you can keep a car in the same spot without moving, 2 days.
raymay February 12, 2014 at 09:22 AM
Re leaving markers in empty spaces: I witnessed one of my neighbors laying claim to a spot that I had shoveled out with an orange cone. It's not that I wanted the spot, it's that I had shoveled it out and therefore according to this forum I should be able to make the decision whether to cone it or not. How many people are reserving spots they didn't actually shovel??

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